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I have found out you do not have to select the exact key every time. When you approach a locked door/chest .. open inventory and right click on the key-ring.. you can then run around unlocking all your doors chests, and re-lock them without having to search through keys ...it automatically selects the correct one

I was finding things disappearing from chests when i tried to move them from inventory ..i since discovered there's an extra 3 slots in the stone chest visible by scrolling! ... lol ! scrolled up and there they were. If you have your protection barrier active, its easier to deconstruct the door with a hammer ... then craft a new one and new key.

This might make a difference, ....... How about a splash screen appearing before you join a non PVP server stating the conditions of playing, ie No PVP , harassment or anti social behavior, - and requesting the player to agree or not agree to these rules. The " I agree" button allows you to proceed, the" I do not agree" button sends you back to the start menu. The screen can also mention the breaking of these rules could result in a ban from this server. Any comments? not the perfect solution, but at least it worth a go..

The problem, Baz , is when you make something foolproof, along comes a better fool Griefing will always be in MP games..be it overt or subtle. And there's those who will cry "wolf" at everything that happens, whether its griefing or not .and sometimes the innocent get caught in the collateral damage. All you can do is play the game in such a way that any damage can be mitigated, an do not leave yourself open to harassment etc. Easier said than done but at least BI are giving us some protective tools ...its a start

It has been suggested before by others but i am reviving the request: Is it possible for decorations like lanterns, signs carpets etc place inside a protection barrier to be only movable by the protection barrier's owner? Whatt happens now is people come by and steal anything they can including signs over shops,, lights etc trophy's, decorations vases with pants in them ... It would be appreciated as its disheartening to see hard work stolen by others too lazy to craft.

oooh a new work station... popcorn maker

If everyone was nice to each other in the world and abide by the rules .. there would be no need for a police force, or an army to defend your country. Didn't John Lennon say "Imagine..." ? The 0.9 has great promise, and although the non pvp option will be welcomed , it will not stop some other forms of non violent griefing....like that which BB's ship suffered, , or gardens being ripped up ... or things outside the PB range being smashed "for the lulz" by anonymous players Its a great, positive start though, and as the wheat is sorted form the chaff, the game play will be more enjoyable

Yay! and thanks.... getting excited

....and chickens? ..so we can collect eggs and toss them ( the eggs, not the chickens) at griefers?

true. Only reinforces my comment that griefers cannot or do not want to read .... and if they did, they do not understand, or lack the mental capacity to do so .. Anyone offended by the above comments is obviously a griefer

Most likely my fortnightly shopping day

They are painful if they bump into you ...especially from behind

hmmm yes maybe Joan of arc type armor with the pointy boobs ..definitely more female clothing such as skirts and feminine tops... ( and i bet some guys wear them ) and perhaps larger stone panels ... or wider flat wooden beams.... Easier to place fences..... they are a cow to line up ... ,,,, and cows - with the option to milk and craft cheese... More uses for bark .. perhaps cooking and molding into "particle board" style sheeting for inside walls... and also more uses for gravel ..e.g to make paving stones ( gravel + clay in kiln) Flat bottomed barges for moving around islands... More uses for boar hides ..ie leather + wood for a sofa.. But no unicorns please

It would be great to have picture windows, say the same size as a decorated stone panel, and with a metal frame so the when placed at angles ..( including horizontally) the edges match up with no gaps... and waterproof! Think of the construction possibilities.... Shop windows, skylights, perhaps an underwater building..(built seaside below the water level and then the water allowed to flow around it when complete) .. glass bottomed boats to observe underwater features... and glass houses for people to throw stones at Pretty please, BI developers? Everyone please vote up ...

Playing a new card game while waiting for 0.9 ....... you toss a deck of cards onto the floor and jump up and down on them while screaming and pulling your hair out .... its called " impatience".....

I believe the PEGI 7 rating was applied when BI presented the game at a convention where there would be a lot of very young visitors etc. and to conform the censorship rules. They also removed skeletons and changed the way animals were "carved up " after slaying to meet censorship guidelines. I also read somewhere that Ales indicated it would be reviewed after its out of early access I have no problem with that.. but it would be nice that when i am playing the game and showing younger future game players how the game works and not to be confronted by avatars with filthy obscene and sometime racist and homophobic names who post abusive chat, and call other players names not suitable for any rating. It doesn't upset me but i do think of the younger watchers. As to what teens say, well its a known fact that the teen brain is not considered mature and capable of certain decisions until it reaches the age of 21. Unfortunately in some cases mental age develops slower than physical age My age, well i am not a teen, Have been to university ( and not just to look inside ) and there are children in the house... some grandchildren Two things you NEVER ask a woman ... her age and weight!

These responses only just came to my attention as i had a few hours to spare and looked back over some posts /threads. If it had not been mentioned to me by someone else that i was accused of spreading hatred, i would not have noticed, as from my experience of forums, some things are not worth reading or bothering about . ME spreading hatred? well its sure a surprise to me.. The NA15 experience was a classic example of how a group tried to be helpful and constructive but became the target of unsociable types who came to destroy and not create. It was frustrating, especially when called rude names and abused by filthy named griefers ...with young visitors watching over my shoulder. BI would not like that affecting their games reputation as their game is PEGI 7..and it needs a fix ! Looks like they are obliging I normally do not reply to certain posts, feed trolls, or make accusations about other players / posters but it is apparent here that my interpreted "hatred" might be due to a misunderstanding of words due to a language barrier ..after all the aussie way of saying things can be interpreted different in other parts of the world. "Esperanto" did not take off to become a universal language as its creator hoped it to be, but in reality it had no chance as i do not think the millions in china would want to change All i can say is with my 386 + posts, and 1386 hours of playing Ylands, i have been hopefully contributing to Ylands and hopefully helping the BI development team by putting forward ideas, pointing out glitches and exploits, and making suggestions how they could fix them etc...all for the enjoyment of the game by myself and others. My efforts have been constructive in intent, and if you enjoy the game then its because not only me, but a large group of dedicated players, with many more more posts and many more hours of playing who have been pointing out and confirming things that will help the BI team improve the game further. And the curbing of griefer tactics will go a long way to making this game even more enjoyable, only the griefers will not agree with me. I am not demanding things be fixed, changed or added to suit myself, and if something goes wrong i do not jump up and down and soil my underwear... i detail the error and send in the logs as requested, hoping it will help towards a fix and hopefully help the BI team. Also i make suggestions so that BI can see what some players want, and if it can be done. I have been told a few of my ideas are not possible. Does that worry me? Nah! So please don't accuse me of hatred etc... look at the many posts from others about griefing and who agree, and there's a lot of players who have been griefed and do not complain ..or read these forums ... but simply give up. If you want PVP, then go to a PVP server. Most of the griefers come to annoy PVE players on PVE servers because they are easy targets. In a big world with other PVP players, these wannabees would not last five minutes. Attacking the harmless peaceful players makes them feel big.(sigh) I look forward to the time when my critic(s) can say they have played over 1,000 hours.... and then they can join the rest of a growing group of happy and dedicated players. Until then keep playing and be constructive and act sociable. And to put the thread back on its wobbly track. PVP for the PVP minded , PVE for the explorer/creator. And these servers should be identified as such prominently ..perhaps with a splash screen at the start advising players of the status of the play on that server and requiring the player to agree to proceed ..or be returned to the menu if they do not agree... and the likelihood of a ban if they break the rules. Hopefully the new ylands registered names might make a few think twice before breaking the rules... but then there's always those who don't care to abide by any rules. Peace, rainbows and unicorn fa..ts I like Ylands ( insert here a group hug! )

I am not losing interest nor do i have cold feet. Got my fluffy bunny slippers on and waiting for o.9

as there is nothing on the horizon for 0.9, how about refreshing half the servers from each region...and give us something to explore rather than wander around ruined landscapes with nothing left? At the moment people are losing interest.....

The team has decided to move on as NA 15 is now at the stage of being unplayable a) griefers have littered the place with corpses everywhere ..we often see new arrivals being chased by dumbasses and they are getting scared off playing .. the dumbasses then run away and hide in a hole when they see someone with a saber looking for them. brave, aren't they? b)Hordes of zombies standing around spawn point are lagging the place to "death" why people arrive and the don't do anythig or go anywhere amazes me ...why do they come here? c) The welcome area at spawn was partly successful but too much work ...most time was spent repairing and restocking after people literally took anything they could. Also defending ourselves and new starters who were not fully equipped to defend d) Although some were appreciative, and we met some really nice people to invite to our future exploits, we got tired of the imbeciles with filthy or inappropriate names who would often confront us with crude words and aggressive actions.. anyone who calls me a Motherf...er deserves to be shot ...and they were. Kids ..or adults with kids brains ... e) people litter the place causing lag, all the wildlife was nearly eliminated, and the place was looking like the moon with all the craters So what now? well we discussed running 2 concurrent games, under 0.9 one where we invite people to a closed game, and have identical buildings set up on a public server away from spawn so we can meet new people. new arrivals will have to fend for themselves without is being wet nurses. people we know we might send a taxi ... if the ship bugs are fixed ( crosses fingers...) we will give instructions privately where people who want pve and creativity etc can find us. Come on 0.9! in the meantime we will be on a pvte server closed game... But no worry, you will still see pics and such of our builds Prods BI for the 0.9 update asap

Another form of griefing is to arrive with no intention of playing the game, and park your avatar in someones doorway, break into a house and squat, or go offline never to return in someplace where it disrupts the community ..or blocks building construction. We set up two night time sleeping beds, in a covered area intended for a newcomer to sleep overnight, and signposted their use conditions with a warning you could be killed by griefers if you stay there offline. .. we got "passive" griefers going offline in those beds, making them useless for others who needed them. One even stated he was there for the pvp fun...then hopped on the bed and went offline. He was there for all the time we were on NA15. We set up a place to help new arrivals. We locked up the bulk stores, and replenished the on- display stuff as it was "used". But we would see one person arrive then leave.... and all the containers were empty. Some of the stuff taken was dumped offshore so they could come back and fill their inventory again and empty all the containers. They did it for the " lulz" and we would find their offline avatar hidden away some days later. One was discovered in a cavern surrounded by his stolen loot ... why he needed 9 of everything? - well maybe he was a bad operator and kept breaking stuff! Others would place useless things like grass resin flowers stones corals etc in the food containers after taking all the food from them... Some would bring in rocks and deposit them in front of doors or on ships. Some would go through and rip up gardens ...they are not protected in the PB area. -- neither are tamed horses in fenced of areas. Lanterns seemed to have legs .. they "walked away" overnight I had locked containers on my moored ship and they were outside the PB range but they were smashed open by people looking for stuff inside. What they cannot take they destroy. Same with ships - if its locked and they cannot steal it, they smash up the engines or sails We watched one guy running at round trying to smash workstations ... he couldn't ( PB protected) so instead while we were offline he came back and put locks on them all. We had to break them all and then re craft them ... wasting time. Some playershave come on line to find their building doors locked ( they had not got around to making keys as they could not find iron/clay to make a forge...the nearby resources had been buried.) Another imbecile also locked all the containers we had unlocked which contained supplies for new arrivals. A griefer who obviously came to grief placed his protection Barrier underwater in the middle of a flotilla of parked ships. He then placed items underwater that fouled the ships hulls so that none of the ships could be moved, and the owners could not modify the ocean floor to re-float their ships...or even alter their ships. Some grief by removing all the newcomer needed stuff like grass flint and stones from around the spawn area and in some cases i found layers of dirt placed to cover resources like iron and clay, and even blocking cave entrances. Some dig deep pits under where people spawn ..or build fences around that area. So you see, griefing is almost impossible to stop via programming. The unique Ylands name is a start and admins will soon collect note down the names of griefers on their servers and exclude them. What we will probably see, is with the cloud function, there will be an increase of pvte admin controlled servers, and the need for all these public non cloud servers will diminish...and so will the "playing" field these griefers operate in. Griefing is more than just running around killing helpless people ..it can also be disrupting and harassing those who want to play the game. And another thing, when i am playing the game and i have young kids looking over my shoulder watching ( its PEGI 7 ), i don't want them to see crude offensive names on people running around and calling me a "Motherf...er" and other names, or making racial or homophobic slurs. BI have a lot yet to do to get this game "up to scratch" but they are obviously working on it ..and the unique name is a start. A name filter to stop registering the filth would be the next desirable step. Rome wasn't built in a day ...it took 25 hours.....

well tonight i was on a server na 22..... and this guy arrives and immediately runs to the unarmed female at the workstations and tries punching her ..i called out "stop that" and he ran at me .. but stopped when i produced a saber.. he then ran off and tried to enter very building ...punching at the doors hoping to break in ..but they were PB protected.. he then ran off...and at daybreak i followed a trail of dead avatars ...killed with spilled loot ... until i found where a wolf or puma caught him. He did not take anything, just killed them for the sake of the kill ..now is he a griefer? and should we call all "tylers'" a griefer ....? with the unique name, he would be easy to trace etc. Definitely no steam id .. thats a hacker invitation. Griefers can grief in many ways ... some hijack boats steal boats and vehicles...break into properties and steal all... The use of unique ids is the start of programming griefers out of the game... These imbeciles will find themselves being locked out of pvte servers, and with more pvte servers/games cloud based ... fewer public ones for them to be alone on ..as most will move to the pvte/cloud to avoid these creeps

Oh please bring in the unique Ylands game name! ASAP ..even through a hotfix ... all the good guys would appreciate it ...and it would sure ruin the fun of griefers, because once known as a griefer, always known a griefer! We often see players with names like don, dan den din or ya yaa yaaa etc reappear after they were stopped from griefing...and an peek at their BI account indicate its the same idiot trying to bluff they way in. But before you do introduce it. could you find a way of making it so those of us who already have a name which we use ( and want to keep ) do not get it stolen by some troublemaker who then uses our good name to cause trouble! And as a additional thing .. stop the use of crude offensive and filthy names through some sort of filter when registering?

@Atlantians11 ..we are not "gone" just re-locating. NA 15 got too laggy with all the corpses and the idiots griefing.... when 0.9 arrives ( ???????? ) we will be re-establishing on another server, possibly password protected, At the moment we are mucking around in limbo, on a pvte server which has limited capacity, but keeping us amused in the meantime. Keep in touch ... and we will advise when where and whatever .

but but but ....are you expecting infantile minded griefers to read! ???..let alone understand or follow rules? On foobars server there were such guidelines literally in your face as soon as you arrived...but did that stop the griefers/kiddies? nope! One of the axioms of assembling something form a kit... if it doesn't go together the first time , then you read the instructions.. Admins are needed... but 24/7?